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noise in this report. early thanksgiving, hurricane sandy. is this rally at the end of the day having anything to do with any anticipation of the jobs report? what are you looking for? >> no, i don't think so. we're looking for almost exactly half. we had 171,000. the consensus is 85 to 90,000. we're looking at half. i understand that, you know, superstorm san difs a horrible event, and i am sure it's going to take some jobs out, but it's going to also be a bit of an excusetrending well. i'll give you an example. wells fargo gallup does a small survey. on hiring, small businesses dropped to the lowest level of opt miimism in four years. it doesn't matter what ben bernanke does. i think his programs have long since not really helped the employment side, but the fiscal cliff is doing obvious damage. that's going to make what everybody knows is coming. we ran out of two years to sell. they're going to go from a twist to outright purchases. it's fully built into the market, but it isn't going to help. the fiscal cliff is going to do more damage to the psyche of job creation than anything
. >> you have a combination of 11 year old age of autos, destruction of -- by the way, sandy was an auto destroyer. loss of life. horrible. terrible. it also took out many more cars than people realize. you have to pump overtime to be meet the demand. >> we're still adding up sandy and figuring that out. we're far from figuring that out. hundreds of thousands of automobiles. where are we? 15 plus at the end? >> it's possible. 15. it puts people to work in the country. they don't just add in mexico. mexico is booming. fabulous moment for mexico. they will add in this country too. >> there's talk that their share of the market in the northeast, the big three, is not as high as it is in the rest of the country. we live in part of the country where incomes are higher. you may see better numbers out of bmws and mercedes. >> i don't know the percentage that's brought into the new jersey, new york area, the ones that you always see when you go over a bridge and you look down and this is new york -- i don't mean to be too centric. the foreign cars have to replenish quickly. american cars have to
of things. sandy continues to make me feel these numbers are too difficult. i find them unfathomable. the speech is about way too much unemployment and very unfathomable in terms of the actual destruction. you got numbers from two different governors. they are unusually low. i don't trust any number during this period. >> especially the number we'll get a week from today which estimates for nonfarm are not that good. 75 maybe. sandy will continue to ring in our ears for the next few weeks. >> and then i believe you're going to get when you get supplies rebuilt and enough bricks and enough lumber. did you see that lumber hit a six-year high yesterday. >> wow. >> copper. a lot of people talking about short buy on copper. everyone saying it's about china. a lot of copper comes from scrap and the scrap in the northeast where there's a huge amount of copper, it's extraordinary. a lot of equipment is stalled. >> think of the copper wires here downtown eroded because of exposure to salt water that need to be replaced. >> when i hear the things that have been thrown away, the 500,000 cases o
/2 minute's time. jobless claims coming in, down and this number should be essentially clean of sandy effects, so finally a clean read as to the claims aspect. but it doesn't look like, jim, that we are set for a lower open today. >> carl pointed out that maybe there's some room between sides. but, look, yesterday was one of those days, show a lot of americans don't even know about the fiscal cliff. paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the mcrib is on the menu all the time. in case you're there on your vacation. >> i'm learning here all the time. i'm always learning. >> switch from the bacon cheese-inator. [ bell rings ] . >> celebrating the groun
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